Tom Chavez

Ted Comstock! Nice to hear from you again after decades! Please accept my respectful salutations!

We are not cave men. From what I understand, the vast majority of human beings in the history of human civilization were vegetarian. It is only with the advent of refrigeration in modern times that meat has become commodity. Without refrigeration, meat putrifies too fast. 

Humans have a long digestive tract, like herbivores or vegetarian animals. Carnivores have a much shorter tract, and much stronger acid in their stomachs. They must digest the meat and excrete quickly, before it putrifies in their gut. 

Meat diet is associated with all kinds of diseases including colon cancer, heart disease, etc. Einstein, Newton, Ben Franklin, and many outstanding personalities strongly recommend vegetarian diet. I don’t think the recommendation (if that is what it is) of cave men is persuasive. Eat more salad!

Al Peffley

Tom,

My father was a butcher and worked in several slaughter houses. I am a hunter. Believe me when I say that I am intimately aware of where all animal kingdom protein meat comes from for our food.

I am not pushing my diet habits off on you and I will not get into a Bible verse “duel” over why the Old Testament addresses the eating of animal blood versus plant foods. I study the whole Bible but I don’t store up verses to use them to win debates or missionary campaigns against alternative religions. I am constantly learning new things in my Bible studies and I don’t use verses to reinforce my views of the world’s faults. I have enough faults of my own to address. A loving person does not use the Bible to make another person feel guilty about lifestyles chosen but suggests a perspective for thoughtful consideration of repentful action and practical application in their life. Peace be with you.

This circular logic discussion is not yielding useful information in my life. We can agree to disagree on diet choices and talk about more important things about how people mistreat each other in society? Gregg started a discussion about physics theory and we got side-tracked on solving the world’s problems. I take my share of the blame for going down those “rabbit holes”. I will now leave the remaining postings to Gregg and you. My apologies to our class mates for drolling on and on.

Sue Storey (Manola)

Gregg Wilson

Tom,

I was hoping to move ahead but:

You wrote on 8/25 “The photon is not a carryer of light. (It does not exist)”.

According to most scientists photons are massless wavicles or wave packets (they can appear as particle or wave). They travel 186,282 miles per second in a vacuum, the speed of light.

Light is a wave, not a particle. Light experiments demonstrate that. A vote by scientists does not determine reality.

Einstein’s Relativity Theory establishes the equivalence of mass and energy E=mc^2, and implies that the speed of light cannot be exceeded by objects with mass.

You wrote on 9/1/19 that “the speed of a graviton has to be several billion times the speed of light” and on 9/6/19 that “A graviton has mass”. Obviously this violates the theory of relativity.

"The theory of relativity"???????????

Theory does not determine reality. You should read up on Hendrik Lorentz's theory of special relativity. His theory does not require the bending, curving, twisting of the dimensions of space and time. His theory also allows things with mass to travel faster than the speed of light.

As you wrote on 8/30/19, “If gravity is repulsive then the force of gravity is finite, not infinite. This puts the kibosh on Black Holes. They do not exist.”

No photons, no black holes, no relativity. Alternate physics?

The axiom is proof positive. I do not have to prove that black holes do not exist; you have to prove they do exist. The idea of black holes is based on the mistaken assumption the gravity is attractive and therefore becomes infinite. Isaac Newton argued against gravity being attractive.

On 8/25/19 you write: “We cannot see a proton.” That makes sense since it is much smaller than an atom and below the threshold of observability according to Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle. Yet, you describe in detail the hollow pyramidal geometry of the proton and the so-called elysium flow inside. 

If you can’t observe it, how do you know the detailed shape? It seems you can see and can’t see, which is contradictory. Have you abandoned the law of the excluded middle along with photons, relativity, etc.? 

The idea that very small things cannot be seen simply means that the mechanism for observing them was too crude. My description of a proton is based on logic, reason. The predicted behavior of the hollow proton "fits the bill". Did Rutherford actually see nuclei? (Especially since he announced that a nucleus was 100,000 times smaller than the entire atom.)

What about tachyons?

The tachyons transport the Higgs Boson around so it can assure other particles that they exist.

(You think theese sheet is eez-zee?)

Tom Chavez

Al, take it easy. Lighten up. No one can make you feel guilty except your own conscience.

Tom Chavez

Hi Sue, animals also want to live, just as we do. No one wants to die. Love others and others will love you. Show mercy to others and mercy will be shown to you.

Gregg Wilson

                                                      SUNSPOTS AND THE EARTH

The first recording of sunspots was given in a Chinese script in 800 BC. More extensive reports were reported in 400 BC to 300 BC. The current explanation is that they are magnetic fluxes which inhibit convection and are therefore cooler and not as bright as elsewhere.

They are black. Photographs of them show they are black. This is consistent with polydeuterium having no emission of light at all. The sunspots have a lifespan of from several weeks to a few months. Within a liquid elysium having deuterium nuclei, the growth of a sunspot would be very rapid. The iris of a sunspot shows the inward flow of polydeuterium parts moving to the growing sunspot.

This does not show that the growth of an Earth polydeuterium sphere would be as fast. Out in orbit, it would take much, much longer. However, not as long as it would take dust to collide and grow into the Earth.

On Earth we have numerous active volcanoes. The explanation for them is heat released by residual radioactive isotopes. The official age of the Earth is 4.6 billion years. Even if we accept that the original Earth had massive amounts of radioactive isotopes, they would be long gone after 4.6 billion years. The thermal energy exhibited by volcanoes has to come from high heat emitting radioactive isotopes. These isotopes typically have a half life of less than 100 years. Very few radioactive isotopes would last 4.6 billion years and those isotopes do not release much heat at all. I worked at Hanford, so I am aware of the rapid decline of energy from nuclear piles.

I have mentioned that a polydeuterium sphere would undergo radioactive break down on its surface, once protective elysium has gravitated inward below the orbit of the polydeuterium sphere. The Earth has a solid inner globe - as stated by mainstream science. The decay of such a polydeuterium sphere would go on for many milions of years, if not billions of years. This surface decay would provide "brand new" radioactive isotopes constantly. That would provide the thermal energy to volcanoes continually. Also it is the source of all elements and their isotopes - normal matter.

Or you can believe that that will-o-wisp bunnies collide to create dust bunnies, which collide to create sand bunnies, which collide to create pebble bunnies, which collide to create boulder bunnies, which collide to make asteroid bunnies, which collide to make THE EARTH BUNNY. And do not forget that ice laden comets impacting the Earth - at several miles per second - gave us our oceans.

(Interesting that asteroids show mineral layers, which require substantial gravity and a melting temperature of 1,200 to 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit)

Al Peffley

I noted that rabbits and hares have been established in their own zoological family, away from other rodents. The small mammal family is now called Leporidae. Walt Disney's artists did a terrible disservice to many animals (people are members of the animal kingdom) by giving human traits to them in their cartoon films. The fantasy exagerates the intelligence of animals on earth, but is still entertaining to young and old alike. Speaking of animals with a "personality" - meet Cota, my bartender's assistant I met at the Doghaus Brewery in Leavenworth, WA, earlier in the week. Man's best friend next to man's best drink, BEER. Life is good!

Cheers,

Al

Gregg Wilson

Hi Al,

Are you sure the dog is the assistant manager? We have two dogs which get along well and always know where the food is and when it is time to eat. We don't need clocks. Just listen to the woofs.

I have no problem with accelerators of subatomic particles. I do have a generic problem with how humans interpret the results. These scientists have proclaimed to have identified more than 200 elementary (fundamental), subatomic particles (for instance the Higgs boson which has a lifetime of 1.56 X 10^-22 seconds. Huh?). This is in conflict with Occam's Razor. At the "bedrock" of reality, there should be very few subatomic particles. I can supposedly account for reality with only three particles:

The graviton of the graviton flux.

The elyson of the light carrying medium.

The proton of the discontinuous "solid" medium.

On to electricity. My knowledge of electricity is extremely limited. However, I will give an example. We run electricity through a carbon filament. It is a fluid (liquid elysium) passing over the carbon atoms, much like a flood. Some of the fluid will pass over and fall into open base protons. The only way out of these concave cavities is for the gravitons to impact and vaporize the liquid elysium. Thus, we have light.

Think of electricity as a fluid. Ben Franklin got it right.

Al Peffley

“In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is Freedom, in water there is bacteria.”
― Benjamin Franklin

Gregg Wilson

For those who have tired of my posts, you have allies at the company I worked for. I would rant and rave and write about these various subjects at work. Management decided I had waaaaaaaaaaaaay toooo much free time. They would send me off to China, or Australia, or waaay south of border, up to the Artic Circle, or South Afrika, or Slovakia, etc. However, I got the last laugh when I suddenly retired at age 70.

Or did they?

Anyway, I wrote a book on all these subjects titled "From Gravitons to Galaxies". It is on Amazon for $11.45, or if you do not want to waste your money, you can find it on Google at Nuclearpyramid.com.

I assembled all atoms from hydrogen to nitrogen with color pictures. Also, included are extensive writings on the three pyramids at Giza, Egypt. You will not believe their real purpose.

Gregg

Al Peffley

OK Greg, you have peaked my interest about the three large pyramids in Egypt. Inquiring minds are interested in the real reason for those stone structures being built at Giza (the Cliff's Notes version, please.) Thanks.

Al

Gregg Wilson

Hi Al,

Go to Google; go to nuclearpyramid.com; open "From Gravitons to Galaxies"

I wrote these reports in 2001 and 2003.

There was a world wide flood about 14,000 years ago. Not caused by God but a natural event.

Linda Pompeo (Worden)

Gregg,

And how does anyone know that God did not cause what is called a natural event?

Gregg Wilson

Lynda,

I am not a believer. I do not belong to any religion. However, based on facts, evidence and reason, I am convinced that there is a God that is pro-life. I do not presume to know anything personal about God. When there have been vast extinctions on Earth, there has been a resurgence of life with new species. Darvin's theory cannot account for that fact. There has to have been an intelligence that put forth the new species on Earth.

Pro-life.

The Bible was formulated by the emperor Constatine in about 400 AD. Many books were brought into the Bible but a number were thrown out. This was done by humans.

Some of the books were about Enoch. It is said within those books that God commisioned Enoch to build the Great Pyramid. This was many centuries before the Flood - based on lifespans and many generations as listed in the Bible. Much later it is said that God told Noah to build an Ark. I do not know how factual this is, but it has credence. The Flood story and Ark story are found to be recorded in many ancient cultures. This, in particular, lends credence to the story.

In my book, I describe the pyramids at Giza, Egypt and their purpose. They are, in general, pro human life. Since the pyramids were erected centuries before the Great Flood, it was known that a world wide flood would happen. I have presented a rational cause for a natural flood in my book.

Once again, a God who is pro-life, not anti-life. A God who is bent on destroying human life does not make sense to me.

Tom Chavez

From Highline via Vietnam to Eternality

In war, it is said, the first casualty is truth. But truth can be found, if we seek it, even in war. After graduating (in oblivious ignorance) from Highline High, I eventually made a conscious decision to accept truth, however unpalatable, in preference to illusion, however comfortable. 

My thoughts inexorably carried me from math and science, in which I was very interested, to poetry and feeling, to which I was quite numb.

According to US Defense Department data, in the ten years from 1961 to 1971 the US Air Force sprayed  and dumped millions of gallons of toxic chemicals on Vietnam, including Agent Orange and dioxin.

As a student at the UW in Seattle, I dreamt of planes flying overhead, suddenly realizing with alarm that the tiny specks falling from the planes were napalm bombs. I instinctively turned to run and hide, but I was on a broad meadow, and there was no place to hide….

Some doctrines teach that unless one is baptized, or otherwise ‘saved’, one is destined for hell. What about the souls of innocent Vietnamese babies and children who were napalmed to death? Would they be consigned to hell, never having had a chance to be ‘saved’?

Gradually I found a more reasonable understanding, inadvertently following American transcendentalists and eventually leading to the original transcendentalism of the Vedas. That understanding is summarized in the following poem, cobbled together with some revision from several authors.

Just think! Some night the moon will shine

upon a cold gray stone

and trace a name with silver beam, and look!

’twill be your own!

That night is speeding on to greet

your epitaphic rhyme.

Your life is but a tiny beat

within the heart of time.

From body to body our souls speed on.

We seek a new body when the old one is gone.

And the body we find is the fabric we wrought

on the loom of the mind with the threads of our thought.

The tissues of our lives to be 

we weave with colors all our own,

and in the field of destiny 

we reap as we have sown.

Whatever you do, whatever you say

whatever you eat or give away

and all of your work and austerity

“Do it all,” Krishna says,

“As an offering to Me.”

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare

Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare

With apologies to Robert Service and other unknown (to me) authors.

Al Peffley

Tom -- someone told me recently that I should "lighten up". Please take a little of your own advice to heart and mind...

Gregg Wilson

Some of us did not need dreams.

Tom Chavez

Okay, Al, how's this?

Tom Chavez

Gregg, now I know where you get your physics ideas!

Al Peffley

Vietnam was a nightmare not a "dream", thanks to LBJ and Robert "Strange" McNamara. JFK did not continue play along with LBJ's political "mafia" (Rockefellers, etc.), so they allowed/enabled a team of evil assasins to eliminate JFK. The investigation report I read and later viewed on a PBS documentary stated that evidence collected at the scene in Dallas indicated that John F. Kennedy was attacked by shots fired from more than one location. This is not hard to believe. JFK had his faults like we all do, but he was a true patriot. I think he demonstrated that he loved the American people and believed in the US Constitution's Bill of Rights. He was an Oath Keeper and an individualist in his political party.

The whole decade was stained with the blood of many people of different cultures worldwide (just like the World Trade Center 9/11 killings.) With the exception of the Muslim-sponsored 9/11 attacks and the world-wide precursor attacks before 9/11, the Vietnam War forever turned America towards Communism and the dysfunctional social and political divisions in America that we have today.

Some of the most prominant leaders in Congress today are part of the Red Diaper Doper Baby Era "spawn" that occured in the Bay Area of California and at many large universities across the country. Fortunately, every 1960's student did not drink the Great Society's "Kool Aid" offered up by the humanist, globalist order politicians and global socialism academic teachers of the day.

It is ironic to me that these global change & control people sometimes use the Holy Bible and US Constitution documents to defend themselves in legal court proceedings where they are the defendent, especially when they publically advertise that they oppose both of the same references as a basis of enforcing established (and they claim unfair) Federal and State laws (Ref.: Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" book & the former Democrat voters' #JustWalkAway movement.)

Many moderate Democrats I have interviewed in the last couple of years say they no longer have a choice of honest people who they desire to be state and national leaders, so they no longer vote! Some former Democrats in the Cowlitz County Precinct that I serve are deciding to vote again, but they have become "Independents" who vote for the person and not the Party. They perceive that both political parties have left them behind for personal gain, not their duty to represent "We The People" in the State Legislature and Congress. There still is hope and determination alive in America. Change is coming, but it is not the change most ambitious politicians and academics anticipated four or five decades ago.

Tom Chavez

Gregg, you deny the existence of black holes, gravitational warping of space-time fabric, and the validity of Einstein’s theory of relativity, etc. Here are excerpts from the journal Science and National Geographic with a different perspective.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN a star has a close encounter with a supermassive black hole? It gives astronomers a chance to put Einstein to the test.

By looking at how a star behaves as it whips around the black hole parked in the center of our galaxy, scientists have confirmed that the object’s intense gravitational field puts the brakes on starlight, causing a noticeable delay in its journey through the cosmos. 

As described by general relativity, what we perceive as gravity is the result of an object’s mass curving the fabric of space-time. The theory also states that even light is affected by gravity, and that very massive objects will warp any light moving around them. 

This is why astronomers are so excited about a cluster of stars orbiting the supermassive black hole at the center of our galaxy, a monster with the mass of four million suns called Sagittarius A*, or SgrA* for short.

“This kind of experiment is the first direct test of how gravity works near a supermassive black hole,” says Andrea Ghez, an astronomer at the University of California, Los Angeles, whose team reports the results today in the journal Science.

It appears that Einstein is once again right, and that alternate theories of gravity, including one developed by Isaac Newton, are ruled out.

The star of this show is called S0-2, and it hurtles around the Milky Way’s supermassive black hole, completing an oval-shaped orbit in just 16 years. At its nearest approach to Sgr A*, the star is screaming through space at roughly 15.5 million miles an hour, or nearly 3 percent the speed of light.

“You really need to know, unambiguously, the shape of the orbit,” Ghez says. “At its closest approach, where the star is experiencing the strongest gravitational field, that’s when you can test Einstein’s theory of general relativity.”

To test general relativity, the team combined measurements of the star’s position in space with observations of its motion along Earth’s line of sight to measure an effect called gravitational redshift.

Put simply, when S0-2 is closest to SgrA*, the black hole acts like a speed bump, slowing down the star’s light as it escapes into the cosmos. The effect shows up as a stretching of S0-2’s light toward less energetic, redder wavelengths.

“Gravitational redshift is fundamentally encoded in the spectroscopy,” says Ghez, who noted that S0-2’s starlight slows down by about 125 miles a second—exactly what Einstein’s equations predict for an object with SgrA*’s gravitational heft. As a bonus, the work more precisely pins down the mass and distance of SgrA*.

Below is a diagram of the stars orbits around the black hole from 1995 to 2018, So-2's orbit is a lighter shade:

Tom Chavez

Hey, Al! First you ask me to lighten up, and then you come out all riled up politically. We’re 73 years old, Al. How much longer are we going to me here?

Our future depends upon out thoughts, words, and actions, including our future at the time of death. Is this what you want to think about when you leave your body? 

America is temporary, with a beginning and an end, like all material things. The earth and the sun are also temporary. You are an eternal spiritual being. Wouldn’t it be better turn toward spiritual thoughts, to think about God?

Or do you want to come back to America in your next incarnation to set things straight (hopefully)? I sure don’t. Let karma sort it out.

Tom Chavez

Gregg, here's news that you might like to know about the mass of neutrinos.

Scientists from the University of Washington and other institutions around the world say they’ve reduced the upper limit for the mass of the neutrino by half.

Thanks to findings from the Karlsruhe Tritium Neutrino Experiment, or KATRIN, physicists now know to a 90% confidence level that the neutrino has a rest mass no greater than 1.1 electron volts, or 1.1 eV. The previous upper limit was 2 eV.

Nailing down the neutrino’s mass could solidify scientists’ grasp on the Standard Model, which describes the subatomic world in fine detail. It could also open a path to the mysterious realm beyond the Standard Model.

Neutrinos are among the ghostliest particles in the subatomic zoo. Billions of them pass through our bodies every second, but they’re virtually undetectable.

Scientists and engineers at UW built the spectrometer’s electron-detector system and helped create a suite of analytical software. Other U.S. institutions contributing to the effort include the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, Case Western Reserve University and Carnegie Mellon University.

Gregg Wilson

Tom,

Number 1: Calvin and I are tight!

Number 2: The axiom is proof positive. I do not have to deny blackholes, fabric of space-time, etc. They have to prove it. Grand Authorities do not determine reality.

Billions of neutrinos pass through our bodies every second but they are undetectable.

Uh huh.