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12/19/21 11:11 AM #1472    

 

Patrick Calkins

And then he bought her an iron.

 


12/20/21 07:20 AM #1473    

 

Virginia Wolfe (Scheffer)

Well now, ladies receive weed whackers and lawn mowers.....greatly appreciated of course.


12/21/21 12:55 PM #1474    

 

Patrick Calkins

I worked part-time at Fredericks in Bellevue from November 1967 to May of 1969 as a stockman in toys and housewares.

Good job, I liked it.  Then worked at a small ad agency in Des Moines, Then moved to New York City after graduating from The Burnley School of Professional Art.


12/21/21 01:05 PM #1475    

 

Howard Jenks

Pat I didn't realize you went to Burnly.  Bart Hunt, John Hunts older brother went there.  He went on to have a very sucessful career in the art dept. at Boeing.  Did you know him?


12/22/21 12:52 PM #1476    

 

Patrick Calkins

In the Fall of 1964, Tim Braniff and I attended Burnley. One year later I got drafted and Tim finished the three year program then got drafted and went to Nam. I stayed stateside. Lucky me. I’m still in contact with Tim, he lives in Wenatchee.


12/22/21 12:59 PM #1477    

 

Patrick Calkins

I knew John well. I remember the day he joined our 8th grade class at Puget Sound Junior High. I did not know his brother.


12/22/21 03:46 PM #1478    

 

Gregg Wilson

 

                   The Good Ol' Days


12/22/21 08:12 PM #1479    

 

Bill Engelhardt

Just in time for Christmas....


12/22/21 09:08 PM #1480    

 

Karen Buck (White)

At that price, I'll take 10!!!


12/23/21 03:12 PM #1481    

 

Lynn Britton

To my fellow Pirates and families, MERRY CHRISTMAS and best wishes for a wonderful New Year.  A special shourout to Pat Calkins, my best bud at Chelsea Park and to Greg Wilson (kid across the street in grade school - p.s. remember Lou's well).  I won't be "woke" and say Happy Holidays, It's called CHRISTMAS for a reason.

Love to you all and looking forward to "60".


12/23/21 06:01 PM #1482    

 

Karen Buck (White)

Lynn, Here's hoping you have a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS too. It was so great to see you on this message board again.  Hope all is well with you and your loved ones. Take care!!


12/24/21 02:53 PM #1483    

 

Bill Engelhardt

Christmas Eve 1949

P-I photo caption:
A huge lighted cross, eight stories tall, dramatically shines forth from the Smith Tower, as a reminder that Christmas is the birthday of Jesus, the Christ child. 


12/25/21 07:52 AM #1484    

 

Virginia Wolfe (Scheffer)

Very moving...thanks for posting.  Blessed Holidays to all!


12/25/21 11:54 AM #1485    

 

Linda Pompeo (Worden)

Thank you for sharing Bill.  The message of Christmas seems to be mostly lost in the bustle of the holiday.  


12/25/21 03:34 PM #1486    

 

Diane Paulson

only Jesus was born in the spring: how many lambs do you know of born in December? what shepherds would be watching their flocks on the mountains in the snow? the manger is for the animals in the winter, etc. Christmas is a Pagan holiday called Solstice

oh dear, sorry if I offended anyone...

 

https://www.livescience.com/42976-when-was-jesus-born.html

"Researchers have speculated that the Roman Catholic Church chose Dec. 25 because it ties in with the winter solstice and Saturnalia, a festival dedicated to the Roman deity Saturn. The church could also co-opt this popular pagan festival, as well as the winter celebration of other pagan religions, by choosing this day to celebrate Jesus' birthday, according to scholar Ignacio L. Götz in his book "Jesus the Jew: Reality, Politics, and Myth-A Personal Encounter” (Christian Faith Publishing, 2019). 

 

However, nobody really knows exactly when Jesus was born."


12/25/21 04:27 PM #1487    

 

Gregg Wilson

                                          Book of Enoch

 

Since there is some interest in accuracy, the Book of Enoch is the oldest biblical book by about 12,000 to 14,000 years before the Books of Moses - including Genesis. It is not in the Bible or the Old Testament but is found in the Ethiopian Bible. It speaks of God commissioning Enoch to build the Great Pyramid because a distant future world wide tragedy coming.

God is described as being loving of mankind, merciful, and caring about them. This is the reason that the book was banned in the Old Testament where he is described of hating humans and wanting to destroy then with the Great Flood.

The Great Flood did happen but it was a natural event.

 


12/25/21 06:36 PM #1488    

 

Diane Paulson

There appear to be many deities who were born on the 25th and also born of virgins. Gods born on December 25th:
Happy Birthday Horus (c. 3000 BCE)
Happy Birthday Osiris (c. 3000 BCE)
Happy Birthday Attis of Phrygia (c. 1400 BCE)
Happy Birthday Krishna (c. 1400 BCE)
Happy Birthday Zoroaster (c. 1000 BCE)
Happy Birthday Mithra of Persia (c. 600 BCE)
Happy Birthday Heracles (c. 800 BCE)
Happy Birthday Dionysus (c. 186 BCE)
Happy Birthday Tammuz (c.400 BCE)
Happy Birthday Adonis (c. 200 BCE)
Happy Birthday Hermes (c. 400s BCE)
Happy Birthday Prometheus (Born at the beginning of mankind)

12/26/21 12:41 PM #1489    

 

Tim Jones (Jones)

Oh, great!  Here we go!!  Thanks Diane!

Me tuning out....


12/26/21 01:29 PM #1490    

 

Bill Engelhardt


12/26/21 02:50 PM #1491    

 

Diane Paulson

Thanks Tim, sorry my boat's in permanent dry dock so this is all I've got: :)  (trigger warning: don't read this if you think it will bother you at all)

This was the first thing I read this morning, a friend sent via What's App, the wonderful JT on the wonderful JKR. I wish every day could start like this.
Janice Turner:
"A friend believes people divide into sheep and goats. The sheep will never stray too far from their flock’s received wisdom because lone dissenters are picked off by wolves. Sheep are pleasant, biddable, placid, and panic when cornered. Sheep mainly aspire to a quiet life.
Goats are not nice: they’re cussed, belligerent, solitary. They scrabble and climb, cling to frozen rock faces. It’s not bravery that leads them far from low-hanging fruit and shelter into barren places with precipitous drops, or to ram their heads into hard objects and bigger foes. It’s their nature. They’re goats.
When people, mainly left-wing men, ask why JK Rowling has “ruined her legacy” by tweeting against the gender ideology which is now orthodoxy in liberal politics, trade unions, academia and so-called human rights bodies, I answer: because she’s a goat. A sheep may regard news that Scottish police will register a rapist as female – even though legally rape is only committed with a penis – as absurd, a statistical travesty, a gas-lighting of rape victims. But the sheep, craving its flock, keeps shtum.
How easily Rowling, at 56, could sit in her castle tapping out thrillers, jolly Christmas fables and Potter spin-offs, bathed in global adoration, a fast-tracked national treasure, a bland billionaire,. She could have stuck with her uncontroversial causes, like Romanian orphans and child literacy, into which she has poured many millions, mouthing fashionable mantras to placate the angry, ever-circling mobs of America’s culture wars.
Instead she entered the bitterest battle of all. There was nothing – nothing! – to be gained for her in defending unknown tax consultant Maya Forstater, when two years ago an employment judge decided her belief that biological sex is immutable was “not worthy of respect in a democratic society”. Turn away, Jo; bang out another Fantastic Beasts! Anything but upset your youthful, progressive fan base: your loyal flock. But the stubborn goat refused. A single tweet #IStandWithMaya sent her on to an icy ledge.
How must it feel to have your name airbrushed from the $8 billion film franchise born of your scribbling in a coffee shop, penniless, while your baby napped? Or to watch the trio of child actors you chose and nurtured 20 years ago recall the stories which made them many times richer and more celebrated than their ho-hum talents deserve, yet not once uttering your name? Or have fools who run around with broomsticks up their backsides in college leagues change the name of quidditch, the sport you invented for wizards?
That’s putting aside the threats. Just search for JK Rowling on Twitter and see the stream of invective, the gun memes, the intent to rape and kill, the address of her family home handily displayed for passing stalkers online. For what? I’d bet few of those denouncing her even know and have certainly never read her long, thoughtful, compassionate essay.
But it turns out an author told to publish under gender-neutral initials, since boys won’t read books by girls, was a woman all along. One of the bothersome, old-fashioned types, who won’t jettison all they’ve learnt from motherhood or sexual trauma to assuage bullies or cultural fads.
In Through the Looking-Glass, Alice laughs at the White Queen’s ridiculous pronouncements: “There’s no use trying,” she said. “One can’t believe impossible things.” The Queen replies it just takes practice, half an hour every day: “Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.”
Rowling is incapable of believing impossible things. That human biological sex is not binary; male bodies have no advantage in women’s sports; a male person declaring themselves a woman is instantly, magically – Transformiamus! – eligible for female private spaces; that a global epidemic of teenage girls wanting to medicate themselves with testosterone and surgery is progress rather than a self-harm cult; that there is a special new category of human called “non-binary”, neither male nor female, for whom all existing facilities (mainly those designed to protect women) must be scrapped; that cherished words to describe female experience – girl, mother, woman – must be swapped for terms which reduce us to bodily functions like gestational carrier or menstruator; that it is impossible to identify a woman unless they declare their pronouns.
Just as Galileo refused to bow to the Inquisition and affirm the Earth is the centre of the universe, many women just don’t, won’t, can’t believe gender is real but sex is not.
The sheep, of course, will pretend they do. They bleat their sympathies, or purport to seek some miraculous compromise which will appease their flock. (As if untold reasonable, well-meaning women before them haven’t sought, in vain, a middle path, or that scientific fact can be bargained away.) Or like Caroline Nokes, Tory chair of the women and equalities committee, who voted against same-sex marriage in 2013 but bulldozed women’s concerns about Gender Recognition Act reform in her report last week, they strive to join the flock.
Only the goats stand their ground. And this has been the year of the goat. A succession of women have upended their lives, been cast out and despised just to uphold a fundamental belief. Keira Bell, who took a judicial review against the Tavistock gender service which irreversibly medicated her teenage body rather than healed her troubled mind; Sonia Appleby, who exposed safeguarding failures at that clinic; Jess de Wahls, an embroidery artist, whose work was summarily removed from the Royal Academy shop; Professor Kathleen Stock, hounded out of academia by masked protesters while her colleagues and union stood by; choreographer Rosie Kay who lost her eponymous company because she refused to disavow the intricacies of the female body she inhabits in dance.
I’ve interviewed most of these women and prior to speaking out, all experienced long nights of the soul. Fear (of losing political allies, friends and peers) battled against a burning urge for truth. But in the end, they couldn’t not speak out. It didn’t matter what happened next. They were not prepared to deny material reality, even if they never worked again. They were happy to ascend that rock face, cold and alone. But instead they found themselves alive and free, up among the goats."

12/26/21 03:15 PM #1492    

 

Diane Paulson

apologize for the previous offensive imageMay be an image of cat


12/26/21 03:28 PM #1493    

 

Diane Paulson

anyway, Jesus was a troublemaker in trouble with the authorities and even though I think Christmas as such is a travesty, I do identify with him even though he was born in the Spring, as I was, 

 

Here is from Isaiah 53 about the Messiah: despised and rejected of men (and women)
 
New King James Version  Par ▾ 

The Sin-Bearing Messiah

1Who has believed our report?
And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant,
And as a root out of dry ground.
He has no [a]form or [b]comeliness;
And when we see Him,
There is no [c]beauty that we should desire Him.
3He is despised and [d]rejected by men,
A Man of [e]sorrows and acquainted with [f]grief.
And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him;
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.

4Surely He has borne our [g]griefs
And carried our [h]sorrows;
Yet we [i]esteemed Him stricken,
[j]Smitten by God, and afflicted.
5But He was wounded[k] for our transgressions,
He was [l]bruised for our iniquities;
The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
And by His stripes[m] we are healed.
6All we like sheep have gone astray;
We have turned, every one, to his own way;
And the Lord [n]has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.

7He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He opened not His mouth;
He was led as a lamb to the slaughter,
And as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
So He opened not His mouth.
8He was taken from [o]prison and from judgment,
And who will declare His generation?
For He was cut off from the land of the living;
For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.
9And [p]they made His grave with the wicked—
But with the rich at His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was any deceit in His mouth.

10Yet it pleased the Lord to [q]bruise Him;
He has put Him to grief.
When You make His soul an offering for sin,
He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days,
And the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand.
11[r]He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied.
By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many,
For He shall bear their iniquities.
12Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great,
And He shall divide the [s]spoil with the strong,
Because He poured out His soul unto death,
And He was numbered with the transgressors,
And He bore the sin of many,
And made intercession for the transgressors.


12/26/21 03:42 PM #1494    

 

Diane Paulson

Gregg, the book of Enoch sounds intriguing I'd like to look it up.. do you have a link? thanks


12/26/21 04:02 PM #1495    

 

Gregg Wilson

Diane,

I am not religious in the sense that I don't believe anything. I know or I don't know. I study various old texts out of curiosity. I do think that predecessors established humans as a species on this planet ("We will make them in our image").  If you wish to call this "God", I don't care. However a God who created the Universe is silly.

There are several interpretations of the Book of Enoch. However, you have to be careful about these interpretations. I think you are showing critical faculty. I have absolutely no opinion about Jesus.


12/26/21 04:15 PM #1496    

 

Diane Paulson

thanks gregg, I will look it up

here's a song about(the birth of Jesus) called the ANTI CAROL: by folk singer Frankie Armstrong :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo3jLbJ_DpQ


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